Video Talk:Cloud-chasing (electronic cigarette)/Archive 1
Not a Sport
Cloud chasing isn't a sport. Cloud chasing is an activity which some people compete in. It's like beermat flipping or beer glass stacking, some people do it for fun and then it becomes competetive, as all the sources say. I tried re-wwriting but it became quite clunky. Suggestions needed. SPACKlick (talk) 14:18, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
- Technically it's not a sport but a "sport" or vaping game. I'm positive that the SportAccord would never classify it as a sport and sources vary in presenting the term with or w/o scare quotes. Would need to dig into more sources tho there aren't that many yet.--TMCk (talk) 20:21, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
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Image in lede
Same issue as on the main e-cig page. This image shows what appears to be general use. One of them may be someone cloud chasing but from context it's hard to tell. To give the impression that this is what cloud chasing looks like is misleading and we should try to find or have someone create a verifiable or at least non-controversial image. SPACKlick (talk) 19:16, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- The montage image was tastefully done and appropriate for this article. Not everyone is a "professional vaper". The main image shows a very large plume of vapor. This is good. QuackGuru (talk) 20:46, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+I think we should keep the current montage image unless a better montage image is created. An image of a professional vaper can be added to the Cloud-chasing (electronic cigarette)#Competitions section. The lede should not have an image of a professional vaper since most cloud-chasers are not professionals. QuackGuru (talk) 20:14, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
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- For God's Sake Quack! Nobody but you brought professional cloud chasing into this. Cloud chasing is a way of vaping. It is a way of vaping that has certain distinctive visual features. Most of the images depicted in the montage do NOT have those distinctive visual features and are not verifiably cloud chasing so 1) If they aren't cloud chasing they're inappropriate. 2) If they don't clearly illustrate what cloud chasing looks like then they're misleading and inappropriate. None of them are uncontroversially images of cloud chasing. Take a look on google image at some of the not free images of cloud chasing, by amateurs and you'll see a massive difference. It's not professional against not professional. It's illustrates cloud chasing vs illustrates simply vaping. SPACKlick (talk) 15:34, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- Edit to add. If we look at the four images individually.
- The bottom right is of a smoke fall. This isn't at all to do with making as much vapour as possible but is a trick, much like the french inhale about controlling the vapour produced. It's not tagged as cloud chasing and looks nothing like cloud chasing.
- The middle left image "vapor from an E Cig User" is just normal everyday vaping. The cloud isn't as big as the device. It's a small stream of general use. The photographer doesn't imply that any cloud chasing is going on. It isn't tagged as cloud chasing. There's no visual similarity to cloud chasing.
- The top image "smoke screen". Arguable looks a bit more like cloud chasing as the cloud is bigger and projected. It isn't tagged as cloud chasing by the author but because of the visual features may be an appropriate image with the paucity of pre-existing images of cloud chasing. Gentle clouds are a thing.
- The bottom left image is called "E-Cigarette/Electronic Cigarette/E-Cigs/E-Liquid/Vaping/Cloud Chasing" and is tagged in basically every e-cig tag that exists on flickr. So does every image that user has taken of someone vaping. It's clickbait. Visually you have a small gentle exhalation. That guy does have a slightly better image to illustrate cloud chasing although again it's not massively dissimilar from normal vaping.
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- The real question Quack is what criterion have you used to determine that those 4 images DO illustrate cloud chasing. SPACKlick (talk) 15:46, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
Arbitration committee discussion
(Notice cross posted to: Electronic cigarette, Safety of electronic cigarettes, Legal status of electronic cigarettes, Positions of medical organizations regarding electronic cigarettes, Electronic cigarette aerosol, Cloud-chasing & vape shop. Please focus any discussion on the main page
There is an ArbCom case pending related to this family of topics. SPACKlick (talk) 11:36, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Longest Cloud as Competitive Objective
Just today I was in a Vaping Store and talked to a guy that does these clouds competitively. They had a section of the wall marked off in 1 foot increments and he was practicing making the longest cloud he could (distance from person vaping to end of cloud). Lede says the competitive objective is "largest" cloud, and this person I talked to practiced making the longest. I don't know if the article is wrong, or if there are two different ways to compete (largest and longest being two separate categories). Thought I'd mention it here in case the article needs to be updated.Jonny Quick (talk) 04:01, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
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